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RE: WAP and IP

2000-06-25 22:40:03

On Sat, 24 Jun 2000 08:38:38 +0200, Patrik =?iso-8859-1?Q?F=E4ltstr=F6m?= 
 <paf(_at_)swip(_dot_)net> said:

  Patrik> At 00.31 +0000 00-06-24, Mohsen BANAN-Public wrote:
  >> IETF/IESG/IAB folks keep saying TCP is good enough for everything.

  Patrik> We don't.

  Patrik> See for example SCTP described in draft-ietf-sigtran-sctp-09.txt and 
  Patrik> applied to many applications which for example have to do with 
  Patrik> telephony signalling.

The current status, state and beginning date of that example
makes my point. 

After 7 months of delay, caused by the IESG, ESRO was published
as an RFC in Sept. 1997.

  Patrik> You can also have a look at the proposed charter for the Blocks 
  Patrik> eXtensible eXchange Protocol (bxxpwg) WG which might help 
  Patrik> applications designers get around some problems with TCP.

  Patrik>     Patrik
  Patrik>     Area Director, Applications Area

As far as Efficient Application Protocols go, the examples that you
cited are in my eyes a day late and a dollar short.

There is work out there which is way ahead of where you seem to be.


In the early stages of formation of an industry (such as Mobile
Applications) competition amongst open and patent-free protocol
specifications is of benefit to all.

I am all in favor of creating a free market for such protocol
specifications. This involves *equal* access to all protocol support
organizations including:

   - Equal access to RFC Publication Service
   - Equal access to IANA
   - Equal access to patent-free support facilities
   - Equal access to announcement and information distribution facilities.

Such an approach can lead to better containment of IESG/IAB/...  and
stop, in practice, the drift towards becoming a cult.


In the area of Efficient Application Protocols and alternatives to WAP
let's all put on the table what we have got and build on that.


...Mohsen




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