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Re: IPv6 will never fly: ARIN continues to kill it

2007-09-15 09:44:20

On Sat, 15 Sep 2007, Paul Hoffman wrote:

Certainly. Every vendor who ties a license to an IP address has already had to
deal with customers who change IP addresses. I doubt that Bill's mentioning of
this practice was meant to say "therefore we can never do anything that would
cause renumbering".

On the other hand, if you develop a system that forces enterprises to 
renumber, then you GUARANTEE that a large set of them will find a way 
to avoid (or at least take control of their own) renumbering, e.g. 
NAT --for many reasons that have already been cited in this thread, 
and some that have not been.

Example: Fred mentioned that it would be nice to just use some form of 
host names, instead of addresses, but in the world I live in, MANY 
groups are geographically dispersed and want Traffic Disruption 
Appliances on each of their subnets to allow unrestricted flow among 
their *blocks* of addresses --they certainly would not want to either 
a) manage large lists of explicit host addresses *or* names, or b) 
change their complex firewall rules whenever someone sez let's do the 
Renumber Drill!  (Is that perimeter protection model fundamentally 
flawed?  Of course it is, just like NAT is.  Both observations will 
not change the reality of their continued use.  The question should 
be: what will?

Note also, for fans of homogeneous networks and single network 
management stations, that a single AS may have hundreds of autonomous 
management domains within it.  As others have said, this is not 
entirely a technology problem.

-teg

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