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Re: Hyatt Taipei cancellation policy?

2011-08-30 16:31:00

Dean,

Before you give up completely I would check out:

http://wikitravel.org/en/Taipei

Taxis are not expensive, the Metro even less so, and there are at 
least some budget hotels nearby. I expect the local hosts to provide
more information soon -- they already have some info on the website.

I agree about the Hyatt hotel price.

Ole


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On Tue, 30 Aug 2011, Dean Willis wrote:

On 8/23/11 9:24 AM, John C Klensin wrote:

So I'm opposed to a USD 200 (or any other number) firm limit on
hotel rates.  At the same time, I continue to wish that the IAOC
would be more open with the community about how these decisions
are made and, in particular, how the tradeoffs between
sponsorship (and hence lower costs to the IETF for meeting
infrastructure and arrangements) and meetings costs to attendees
are made... open enough that the community could give
substantive guidance on the subject, guidance that I assume the
IAOC would follow if it were coherent and plausible.


Quite right. There's more than just the hotel rates.

My budget is about $2500 US per IETF meeting. That has to cover airfare, the
IETF meeting fee, the hotel, meals, service charges, ground transport, mobile
phone roaming, incidentals, etc.

$300 a night counting taxes and surcharge is just ABSOLUTELY OUT OF THE
FREAKING QUESTION. Having the "backup" hotel a 10 minute taxi ride away is out
of the question -- I can't afford taxis. If I can't walk, I can't go.

So guess what? I told the wife last night that I wasn't planning to go to the
Taiwan meeting. I wanted to go, but I just don't see how it can happen. Maybe
I'll win the lottery between now and then...

I'm disappointed. I'm hurt. I'm angry. And the trend has just been getting
worse and worse with every venue. I want the IAOC's heads on a platter
(preferably an inexpensive, disposable platter, like maybe the lid off an old
pizza box) for signing us up to this venue. And I want a travel budget no
larger than mine for the people we send to future meetings.

If we can't find a reasonably inexpensive place to have a meeting, DON'T HAVE
THE MEETING!


--
Dean Willis
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