RE: Hyatt Taipei cancellation policy?

Hi,

Also note that, according to Google maps, it is possible to take a bus from the 
overflow hotel to the meeting. It requires a 400 meters walk from the hotel to 
the bus stop, but that should be managble even for an IETF attendee... 

The total travel (walking+bus) is 13 minutes.

Regards,

Christer


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> Behalf Of Ole Jacobsen
> Sent: 31. elokuuta 2011 0:31
> To: Dean Willis
> Cc: ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
> Subject: Re: Hyatt Taipei cancellation policy?
>
>
> Dean,
>
> Before you give up completely I would check out:
>
> http://wikitravel.org/en/Taipei
>
> Taxis are not expensive, the Metro even less so, and there 
> are at least some budget hotels nearby. I expect the local 
> hosts to provide more information soon -- they already have 
> some info on the website.
>
> I agree about the Hyatt hotel price.
>
> Ole
>
>
> Ole J. Jacobsen
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>
> On Tue, 30 Aug 2011, Dean Willis wrote:
>
> > On 8/23/11 9:24 AM, John C Klensin wrote:
> > > So I'm opposed to a USD 200 (or any other number) firm limit on 
> > > hotel rates.  At the same time, I continue to wish that the IAOC 
> > > would be more open with the community about how these 
> decisions are 
> > > made and, in particular, how the tradeoffs between 
> sponsorship (and 
> > > hence lower costs to the IETF for meeting infrastructure and 
> > > arrangements) and meetings costs to attendees are made... open 
> > > enough that the community could give substantive guidance on the 
> > > subject, guidance that I assume the IAOC would follow if it were 
> > > coherent and plausible.
> > Quite right. There's more than just the hotel rates.
> >
> > My budget is about $2500 US per IETF meeting. That has to cover 
> > airfare, the IETF meeting fee, the hotel, meals, service charges, 
> > ground transport, mobile phone roaming, incidentals, etc.
> >
> > $300 a night counting taxes and surcharge is just ABSOLUTELY OUT OF 
> > THE FREAKING QUESTION. Having the "backup" hotel a 10 
> minute taxi ride 
> > away is out of the question -- I can't afford taxis. If I 
> can't walk, I can't go.
> > So guess what? I told the wife last night that I wasn't 
> planning to go 
> > to the Taiwan meeting. I wanted to go, but I just don't see 
> how it can 
> > happen. Maybe I'll win the lottery between now and then...
> >
> > I'm disappointed. I'm hurt. I'm angry. And the trend has just been 
> > getting worse and worse with every venue. I want the IAOC's 
> heads on a 
> > platter (preferably an inexpensive, disposable platter, 
> like maybe the 
> > lid off an old pizza box) for signing us up to this venue. 
> And I want 
> > a travel budget no larger than mine for the people we send 
> to future meetings.
> > If we can't find a reasonably inexpensive place to have a meeting, 
> > DON'T HAVE THE MEETING!
> >
> >
> > --
> > Dean Willis
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