Re: IETF Meeting in South America

At 05:25 PM 5/23/2013, Jari Arkko wrote:

> For what it is worth, I wanted to provide my perspective on this. I 
> of course believe that it is important that the IETF reaches out to 
> an even more international participation than it already has. This 
> is first of all because we really need the views from different 
> types of organisations and different parts of the world. For 
> instance, I recently had an opportunity to talk to a number of 
> people about peering in different regions. It really opened my eyes 
> about how the Internet experience can differ from what I've been 
> used to so far. We also need to understand how regionally changing 
> requirements for, e.g., emergency communications
I hate to call you out on this point Jari, but... did you know that 
you have a audio/video realtime interactive communications WG 
churning out proposals and solutions that is *actively* ignoring 
"emergency communications" in its entirety? No? Look at RTCweb, which 
will become a dominant form of interactive communications between 
humans in the near future. You have an equally active WG in the same 
area that is addressing emergency communications (ECRIT) that is 
further along/mature in its documents (i.e., they've already produced 
the bulk of their RFCs, specifically RFC 6443 and 6881).
Given that young people already think contacting a local emergency 
call center (PSAP) can or should be achievable through SMS, IM, 
twitter and Facebook... just how long does anyone think it will be 
before calling 911/112/999 will be requested or mandated through WEBrtc/RTCweb?
Waiting will only make it more painful to retrofit it into the future 
RFCs produced by RTCweb.
humbly

James

> or whitespace management affect our work. Finally, our international 
> coverage is not just important for our work but also for how we are 
> perceived. For all of these reasons, reaching out to different parts 
> of the world is important, and one aspect of that is rotating 
> through meeting locations around the world.
> I would also like to highlight one part of the message from Bob:
>
> > The IAOC would
> > also like to get feedback on how we can ensure the meeting is as 
> successful as
> > possible and on ways to grow participation in the region.
>
> This is really important, and I hope that we get good feedback on 
> what kinds of things would be useful to do in order to achieve this. 
> That is, we're not just asking a binary question if the meeting is 
> or is not ok.
> Just meeting in some place does not bring too many new participants, 
> at least not in a lasting manner. But combined with some other 
> actions, this may be possible. Are there specific companies or 
> research teams that we could reach out to, and who might want to be 
> involved in the IETF? Are there local events where where it would be 
> useful to have someone from the IETF give a talk? Are there specific 
> IETF or IRTF efforts where we could get more people from South 
> America involved? Should the ISOC fellows program target something 
> different than it has so far, or be scaled up? Other ideas?
> Jari
>
> P.S. By coincidence, I happened to visit Buenos Aires last year, and 
> found it to be a fun city. I felt safe and despite not speaking the 
> local language I was able to talk to the friendly locals, order 
> food, access the network, acquire a SIM card (albeit with some 
> bureaucratic and technical difficulties, but I think I can still dig 
> up the MNC numbers that were needed to configure the phone correctly 
> :-), use the airports, rent a car, and find a Finnish sauna. I think 
> the city offers all the essential ingredients for life :-)