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Re: China

2016-04-08 11:01:47
On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 9:38 AM, Michael Richardson 
<mcr+ietf(_at_)sandelman(_dot_)ca>
wrote:


Ole Jacobsen <olejacobsen(_at_)me(_dot_)com> wrote:
    > I am sorry to hear that. Our "open and inclusive process" comprises
    > many participants from China who have traditionally faced harsh and
    > unpredictable visa problems in North America. In fairness to them, we
    > held that meeting in Beijing. Note that we did so following an
    > extensive discussion on the IETF mailing list and after negotiating
    > the removal of a rather ominous hotel clause, as well as an
unfiltered
    > network in the meeting venue.

Yes, and we did this openly, and I don't feel we did the same thing here.
And there were still surprises, I'm told.

I was very surprised at the announcement for 100.
I kinda thought we should go back to San Diego as for IETF 1.
(well. Maybe IETF101 should be same as IETF 1... maybe IETF 100 should be
same as IETF 0, and be entirely virtual...)

(I didn't go because I generally have funds for two IETFs a year,
and given the hassle, and my concerns about what I would eat, it was
simpler
to skip.  I skipped BA for a combination of economic, but primarily family
reasons)

[MB] You would have had no concerns whatsoever about what to eat in
Beijing.  I ended up with basically a private chef (Chef Eric) who I would
ask for when I went to eat at the hotel restaurant and he would prepare
whatever I wanted (gluten free). Although, I honestly have no desire
whatsoever to go back to Beijing due to the air quality - we got really
lucky the week we were there - you could actually see mountains.[/MB]



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