This discussion is public, I’m sure it has already been indexed by google,
bing, etc.
We can start reviewing our ways to choose venues from now on for those that
have no economical impact (no contracts signed yet) and at the same time we
must not hide our opinion on any kind of discrimination.
We can have the meeting in Singapore and at the same time, have an explicit
message to the authorities, press, etc., explaining what enforced to have this
discussion and why we will not come back to Singapore and other countries if
the laws aren’t changed. We can even have a press release explaining it during
the meeting. It is a much better opportunity to create the noise, specially if
authorities come to the meeting.
Regards,
Jordi
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De: Recentattendees <recentattendees-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org> en nombre de
Margaret Cullen <margaretw42(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com>
Responder a: <margaretw42(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com>
Fecha: jueves, 26 de mayo de 2016, 1:09
Para: <ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>
CC: <recentattendees(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>, IETF Announcement List
<ietf-announce(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>
Asunto: Re: [Recentattendees] Background on Singapore go/no go for IETF 100
I understand that this is a very difficult situation, but I think you have
left something important out of your list of pros and cons. If we cancel the
Singapore meeting, we get to say _this_ to the Singapore government, who wants
us to meet there enough that they have offered us $150K in incentives for us
to come there:
“ Singapore laws against same-sex relationships between men and
preventing the recognition of same-sex marriages could create
difficulties for same-sex partners and their children; these have
discouraged affected members of our community from participating
at the IETF meeting in November of 2017 and have also influenced
others to decline to attend in principled solidarity with them.
Accordingly, the IETF has decided to postpone indefinitely the meeting
in Singapore and is pursuing alternative venues.”
If, instead, we hold this milestone meeting in Singapore despite the fact that
these issues have been raised, we are sending the message that we consider
basic human rights violations to be no more of a disincentive to visiting a
particular venue than visa issues, cost considerations, or other items that
have been raised in this discussion as examples of why “no venue is perfect”.
Margaret
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