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Re: Re: When did we lose control?

2004-10-19 10:08:08

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Meng Weng Wong" <mengwong(_at_)dumbo(_dot_)pobox(_dot_)com>
To: <spf-discuss(_at_)v2(_dot_)listbox(_dot_)com>
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 7:13 PM
Subject: Re: [spf-discuss] Re: When did we lose control?


On Mon, Oct 18, 2004 at 08:50:47AM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
|
| So Meng? What would it take to convince you to dump Microsoft's
| involvement and negotiations in this effort and tell them they can
| ride in back along but they have to stop kicking the back of the
| driver's seat?
|

The folks who asked me, back in January, to work with
Microsoft to produce a single standard, would have to ask me
to stop.

Instead they have been emailing me directly saying "please
keep going".  They won't say it here, because we seem to
have turned this mailing list into a cross between a
kangaroo court and a witchhunt, but it's what I'm hearing.

Can you mention who still wants this, so we can talk to them directly or
publicly? It's kind of hard to address desires people might express to you
in private email. If they have some reasoning for their desire to integrate
Microsoft's efforts into SPF, I'd like to see them, and a number of the rest
of us would.

It's hard for us to buy into the reasoning of people who won't speak with
us, and it leaves me at least suspicious of their genuine motivations.

I think it is important to keep the domain owners in mind
--- those millions of folks who will have to actually do the
dirty work of publishing the records.  Keeping things as
simple as possible for them is, in my view, what will make
all this a success --- not fighting over details that they
will ultimately find irrelevant.

Well, yes, that's pretty important. That's also indirectly in conflict with
the approach of Microsoft's Senderkeys system, where they have to send money
to a central key repository and use SMTP servers with XML parsing built it.