On Tue, 19 Oct 2004, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
Like Meng has said this place is more like a kangaroo court and a
witchhunt. If I were them I would be begging Meng to keep everything
quite. Many times there are reasons that people have to meet in private.
As was suggested in a later post from this one. They may not be able to
acknowledge any ties. We have a problem that needs to be resolved all the
who, what, where, when, why, right now really does not matter. We need to
do what we can with what is now available to us. Let's move on and get
SPF as the solution. All these side tracks and wanting of details just
stops the progress. We need to move on if it be one or many solutions.
If we do not something else will.
That belief is understandable: there's some serious bashing here. However,
the idea that people send email privately exhorting Meng to continue
pursuing cooperation with Microsoft is like dating someone who has another
relationship and won't tell you their name. It's troubling, and difficult to
compete *or* cooperate with such people if you don't even know what they're
offering or suggesting.
I guess what I am trying to say is move spf what ever ahead, leave open a
place for a side spec that MS can contribute if or when their IP, ...
becomes really public, for example they give there patent to some offical
standards body, or what ever makes it truely a NOP for open source. We
have no control over MS or what they do. We have control over our own
destiny with SPF. We can either make it a standard and work or through
all our bickering, name calling, animosity, and bashing or we will go the
way of all other things that fail into ... (void of any presence other
than a mark on the wall of history as something that was tried and
failed). SPF can become the standard, but only if we move it along and
stop all the in fighting and bashing.
Meng may find these people trustworthy and appropriate to work with, but we
don't know them, and therefore would have to extend our trust in Meng to
correctly interpret their statements and negotiate their requirements. That
doesn't work well.
We have no control over Meng or what he does, we have control over SPF as
a group here so let's get to work and solve the real problem. BTW, I hate
MS and most of what they do, but I do have to work with them to provide
the best solutions for my customers and clients. We need to move on
taking the best from where ever we can find it to build the best solution
for this major problem. Once we have done this our work will be the
standard and other can do what they may!
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