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Re: Re: When did we lose control?

2004-10-19 12:29:18
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
On Mon, Oct 18, 2004 at 08:50:47AM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
| So Meng? What would it take to convince you to dump Microsoft's
| involvement and negotiations in this effort and tell them they can
| ride in back along but they have to stop kicking the back of the
| driver's seat?
The folks who asked me, back in January, to work with
Microsoft to produce a single standard, would have to ask me
to stop.

Instead they have been emailing me directly saying "please
keep going".  They won't say it here, because we seem to
have turned this mailing list into a cross between a
kangaroo court and a witchhunt, but it's what I'm hearing.
Can you mention who still wants this, so we can talk to them directly or
publicly? It's kind of hard to address desires people might express to you
in private email. If they have some reasoning for their desire to integrate
Microsoft's efforts into SPF, I'd like to see them, and a number of the rest
of us would.

Like Meng has said this place is more like a kangaroo court and a 
witchhunt.  If I were them I would be begging Meng to keep everything 
quite.  Many times there are reasons that people have to meet in private.  
As was suggested in a later post from this one.  They may not be able to 
acknowledge any ties.  We have a problem that needs to be resolved all the 
who, what, where, when, why, right now really does not matter.  We need to 
do what we can with what is now available to us.  Let's move on and get 
SPF as the solution.  All these side tracks and wanting of details just 
stops the progress.  We need to move on if it be one or many solutions.  
If we do not something else will.


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