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RE: Initial Voting Procedures (updated 23:15pm Nov 14 2004)

2004-11-20 09:23:31
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Subject: RE: [spf-discuss] Initial Voting Procedures (updated 23:15pm
Nov 14 2004)


100% of the people that responded to this idea, liked it!

Counting me, that makes 2 so far!  :)

Guy

If multiple people acquire same number of votes for position 5, then clearly 
"the community" feels
they are equally the right person.

Non random selection produces bias and tie vote concerns.

Therefore there are 2 possible solutions:
1) Random selection from the tied candidates (I am not sure if md5 is the best 
random)

2) A new vote that determines the position 5, and the candidates are of course 
just the candidates
that were tied for 5th

I suggest (1) would be better.

Terry Fielder
Manager Software Development and Deployment
Great Gulf Homes / Ashton Woods Homes
terry(_at_)greatgulfhomes(_dot_)com
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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-spf-discuss(_at_)v2(_dot_)listbox(_dot_)com] On Behalf Of Guy
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 11:12 PM
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Subject: RE: [spf-discuss] Initial Voting Procedures (updated
23:15pm Nov 14
2004)

In case of a tie, the one with the lowest md5 sum or their
email address
wins!

Not allowed to change email addresses as of now!  :)

We only care about a tie for the 5th person, correct?
Unless there is a 3 way tie for the 4th person, etc.

Guy

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[mailto:owner-spf-discuss(_at_)v2(_dot_)listbox(_dot_)com] On Behalf Of 
Julian Mehnle
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 8:53 PM
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Subject: RE: [spf-discuss] Initial Voting Procedures (updated
23:15pm Nov 14
2004)

william(at)elan.net [william(_at_)elan(_dot_)net] wrote:
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004, Julian Mehnle wrote:
Seriously, if there's a tie, let the candidate who got
the most votes
break it.

What if they all get te same number of votes?

Yeah, right. ;-)

Seriously the way to resolve it should not depend on
existing election.

Why not?  The candidate who got the most votes is the person who best
represents the views of the community.  Even though some here
may say one
cannot bootstrap a democracy, that is exactly what we are doing, so we
don't have much choice for tie-breaking methods if we want to be fair.

It is either some kind of agreed random selection method or
its based
on their name or something else that is known to be unique.

If we really want to use random selection for breaking a tie, then let
every candidate not involved in the tie secretly choose a
number between 0
and 99 and send it to John Pinkerton, who then publishes the
numbers, sums
them up, and calculates "$SUM mod $TIED_CANDIDATES".

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