David -
Please reply to the whole mail - not just the bits you like to make fun of.
Your inability to provide cohesive technical arguments is now totally clear, and you are
recommended to learn about the technologies you wish to comment on, and then people might
listen to you.
David Woodhouse wrote:
On Fri, 2005-07-08 at 16:20 +0200, johnp wrote:
That is like saying that we should allow people to drive without seatbelts because they
have been doing so for many years. But the reality is that e-mail has shown itself to have
several flaws, which now need to be resolved. Forwarding is one of them.
Ooh look; an analogy. Should I play Terry's favourite trick of pointing
out that seatbelts != RFC2821, so therefore you must be confused?
No, perhaps I shouldn't :)
There were good reasons for using seatbelts. They are very effective and
also usable as a unilateral solution.
You fail completely to use the analogous argument to support your opinion. Cars were not
fitted with seatbelts years ago because they were not considered necessary. Nowadays they
are, and they are fitted. SPF is analogous with seatbelts. Get it yet?
A more effective solution might have been to put rails down instead of
all the roads, and force people to modify their cars to run on these
rails. But to require that kind of change throughout the system would
have been insane, wouldn't it? To make that kind of sweeping change,
your plan has to be _very_ much more useful than the plans which are so
much easier to implement.
You have produced an analogy for all the other protocols which are trying to sort out the
e-mail problems. SPF is the easy solution, but like seatbelts in cars, it will need to be
enforced - if only by becoming a de facto standard - which it is fast becoming anyway.
I await the replacement for RFC2822, and the ubiquitous deployment
of SRS, with eager anticipation. Good luck with that windmill :)
SRS is not up for discussion here - only SPF. There's a clue in the
mail-list name.
But SPF doesn't work without SRS.
You are totally wrong - SPF works perfectly and as designed, without any other protocol.
Again - I suggest that you actually read and understand SPF before you comment further in
case you make a fool of yourself.
Slainte,
JohnP