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Re: [spf-discuss] Re: Anyone Got an Explanation?

2005-09-19 10:45:51
On Mon, 19 Sep 2005, David Woodhouse wrote:

On Sun, 2005-09-18 at 23:27 -0400, Stuart D. Gathman wrote:
The point is that I want to recognize messages that *ought* to 
be DSNs (MFROM <>), but the sender was too clueless/rude to
actually send a DSN.

But those messages are still a mail loop waiting to happen. Surely it's
better to deal with them by hand, by reporting them as network abuse to
the upstream network provider?

Actually, by converting them to a real DSN, I am helping to prevent
a mail-loop.

Imagine that I was running brain-dead spam software like theirs.
I get a (non-DSN) message from mailer-daemon(_at_)clueless(_dot_)com telling me 
I sent
them some spam.  I recognize it as spam, and send *them* a (non-DSN)
message telling them they sent me some spam, which their program
recognizes as spam, and send me a (non-DSN) message telling me
I sent them some spam (which is actually true this time 'round),
which my program recognizes as spam...

Another motivation for converting postmaster(_at_)HELO to <> is that 
I have encountered some MTAs out there that actually *convert*
<> to postmaster(_at_)HELO or mailer-daemon(_at_)HELO when they relay the mail.
This tries to undo that braindamage.

-- 
              Stuart D. Gathman <stuart(_at_)bmsi(_dot_)com>
    Business Management Systems Inc.  Phone: 703 591-0911 Fax: 703 591-6154
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