At 2:59 PM -0700 4/8/03, Brad Templeton wrote:
True, though because it is normal for mailing list management systems to
do automatic error handling -- usual technique being to count the errors
and remove the user after too many -- I doubt many would want to handle
actual challenges that need a human. But it would be up to them as you
say. But this means the challenge goes to the envelope-from, and might not
go to the human being who really needs to see it, no?
Yes. But think how much fun list users have dealing with broken
vacation programs, and multiply that by all the new C/R systems being
developed. I think it's preferable that the challenge end up getting
sent to the list's bounce handler, and the sender removed, than the
alternative. So if you forget to whitelist, you don't get on the
list. That's pretty straightforward.
At 3:01 PM -0700 4/8/03, Chuq Von Rospach wrote:
I think what brad is saying is that when you subscribe to a list, as
a user, it's your responsibility to whitelist mail from that list
through your c/r system. If you don't, and the c/r system challenges
the mail list or users who post to it, the user is broken, not the
list.
Right. And what I'm saying is that the BCP should be that it sends
to the list owner. Then the only person to pay the cost of
forgetting is the subscriber--not all the other list members.
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I'm not sure which upsets me more: that people are so unwilling to accept
responsibility for their own actions, or that they are so eager to regulate
everyone else's.
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