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RE: IETF 72 --> Dublin!

2008-02-01 09:42:58
Jari,

Your an IESG great rep but your just another bozo on the bus on this list.  
Your authoritarian tone is not pleasing at least how I take it.  Let people 
vent I just hit the 'd' key and so can you.  But thanks for your thoughts as 
all others.

The point is the facilities are forcing people to travel extra at the site who 
don't like the site location to live while traveling and I consider the bus not 
an option and will figure it out as basing my non work hours depending on IETF 
community transit is not an option for me I would rather stick pins in my eye 
lids.

130 Euros and the cost of registration is not cheap anymore at the IETF we 
should be trying to find sites within city center for the future where I can 
just walk out of the meeting venue and do my individual thing in life when IETF 
work is over.

That being said this is what IAOC is doing and I for one say we make the best 
of it and I will do that for me.

NB; Ray this is not personal or against IAOC at all.  We know you do the best 
you can with the budget you have. But being in the city anytime gives us all 
more options after IETF work.  I for one do not come at all to the IETF for any 
social things not even a consideration, this is business and business travel.  
Thanks for the hard work.

/jim

-----Original Message-----
From: ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org 
[mailto:ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org] On
Behalf Of Jari Arkko
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 11:29 AM
To: Dean Willis
Cc: IETF Discussion
Subject: Re: IETF 72 --> Dublin!

Dean,

We should know by now that isolated resorts ARE NOT ACCEPTABLE as
meeting locations.


Er... like Dallas or San Diego?

I've never been to Dublin and I don't know what exists on
site. Maybe some locals could tell us? Also, as has happened
in a number of IETFs so far (like in Dallas), Ray is
scheduling a bus service for us. More generally, before we
criticize meeting site selections, lets at least first figure
out what the true conditions really are.

I look forward to going to Dublin.

Jari

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