On 6/20/2011 2:47 PM, Andrew Sullivan wrote:
Speaking only for myself, I will note that the worst IETF experience I
ever had was in Dallas: the location was remote and poor, we were
flooded out of the hotel, alternatives nearby were few, and you needed
a car to go anywhere.
It was, indeed, a horrible venue, along any number of parameters. Fortunately,
Dallas has a few other choices that are likely to work better, along every
parameter we care about.
> Also, the crime statistics for the city made me
uneasy.
The crime statistics for most American cities and most major European cities
make me uneasy. In 1983 I moved to Toronto from Washington DC and was amused by
the different perspectives about crime. I was told there were a couple of
blocks in downtown Toronto that weren't very safe for women alone at night. By
contract, perhaps 1/3-1/2 of DC was unsafe for almost anyone at night and maybe
1/4 for most folk during the day...
I've been ripped off twice in Paris including a double-team pocket-picking.
Purses and backpacks of IETF have been stolen -- including from the middle of
meeting rooms(!) -- in Munich, Stockholm and I believe some other places.
In any event, if crime statistics are to become a factor in choosing IETF
venues, the IETF community needs to develop some consensus about this, including
what the acceptable parameters are. As of now, I believe that's not generally
part of the discussion in choosing a venue.
d/
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Dave Crocker
Brandenburg InternetWorking
bbiw.net
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