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Re: IETF Diversity

2013-06-19 13:41:28
On 19/06/13 21:16, Doug Barton wrote:
On 06/19/2013 11:11 AM, Melinda Shore wrote:
On 6/19/13 10:03 AM, Doug Barton wrote:
Short version, if everyone does what they can to encourage diverse
participation, we won't need "legislation" to fix the problem.

I'd like it if that were true but I don't think it is.  For example,
the majority of academic librarians are women (one demographic
survey I saw said 80%) but the majority of academic library directors
are men (again, ~80%).

It's not clear to me how this example relates to the IETF.


On 19/06/13 18:33, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote:

Academia is still one of the worst environments for discrimination. They don't have formal barriers as in the past but the informal barriers are steep.



Relating to the statement above(I assume Phillip is addressing the US Academia), not quite sure are we still discussing the same topic? sorry, I am bit confused .. since IETF is an international organization.

If yes, good to know more about it.

Aaron



I'd like to think that good intentions and
happy thoughts will provide a durable solution to the problem but
I'm not convinced.

That's not at all what I was suggesting, and others in this thread (and elsewhere) have already outlined their actions in regards to reaching out to new participants, mentoring, etc. Personally I agree that those are the kinds of ACTIONS needed to address the diversity issue ... hence my suggestion that people DO what they can.

... and while we're on that topic, what are you doing to help?