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Re: [spf-discuss] SPF Council requests additional information from SPF Community on if IAB appeal is appropriate

2006-02-06 14:18:52
On Mon, Feb 06, 2006 at 12:42:59PM -0500, Stuart D. Gathman wrote:
On Mon, 6 Feb 2006, Jeff Macdonald wrote:

On Sat, Feb 04, 2006 at 10:38:23PM -0800, william(at)elan.net wrote:

SPF Council would like request that SPF Community provide better
indication as to if an appeal to IETF IAB should or should not be made in 
regards to misuse of v=spf1 records by Sender ID experiment. We request 
that members of SPF Community (especially those who have not posted about 
it before) clearly show their opinion on this issue and indicate 
appropriate action (if any) that should be taken.

I support the appeal. My reasoning can be found here:

http://www.imc.org/ietf-mxcomp/mail-archive/msg05741.html

Your reasoning forcefully explains why "reuse abuse" is technically
and morally wrong (so what else is new with M$).  However, it doesn't explain
how another appeal is going to improve the situation.

I don't see how doing nothing isn't going to improve the situation either.

Are you arguing that we should appeal because it is the right thing
to do, even if it means losing the battle?  That kind of argument
does appeal to me, I can be a "liberty of death" kind of guy.

If by losing the battle you mean SPF doesn't get published as an
Experimental RFC, then yes, because it is the right thing to do. I want
the books to show how corporate interests are favored no matter how
technically flawed they may be.

And if we do lose experimental status, is that really all that bad? Do
we not have adopters without this?

To complete the argument, explain why we are morally obligated to
continue the appeal process, regardless of the outcome.

All I've seen is speculation. Let's find out what will happen and use
it to learn from.

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