At 22:47 20-09-2011, Olaf Kolkman wrote:
For the IAOC and IAB these will be difficult 
challenges that cannot be enforced externally 
but also need an evolutionary culture change. 
Not only in the I* bodies themselves but also how the NOMCOM.
The IAOC has been around for six years.  The IESG 
has been around for 25 years and the IAB for 27 
years.  Half of IESG and IAB are picked by the 
community each year.  As this is the IETF, it's a 
bit more complicated than that (see NomCom).  The 
community only have a say on one quarter of the IAOC.
The current NomCom looks like an inverted image 
of NomCom from a cultural perspective.  NomCom 
will make a safe bet this year.  If the community 
wants to force an IAOC change, it would have to 
be done by BCP.  In a way, the draft is attempting to do that.
The comments posted by Roger Jørgensen are more 
interesting than the politics surrounding the 
change.  He mentioned being "a bit more confused 
after this thread".  It took 20 years for the 
IETF to take control over its administrative 
operations.  The functions cover setting meeting 
fees, deciding how far you should fly to attend a 
meeting, deciding on how to prevent the IETF from being sued, etc.
It is unlikely that an evolutionary culture 
change will come from within the IAOC.  Being 
kicked by the ARSE is not an evolutionary change. :-)
Regards,
-sm 
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