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2004-08-20 15:27:21
PLEASE!

Someone, block this guy from the list _forever_. He has no clue at all, he's 
probably just trying to get this list all messy in the hopes that we will never 
recover and spf dies down in favour of his accuspamTM or whatever.

Koen

Someone with the power, block this guy FOREVER. 

On Sat, Aug 21, 2004 at 05:53:16AM +0800, AccuSpam wrote:

Regarding the auto-response, I was very aware of the issue, which is why when 
I signed up for the list, I requested a daily batch instead of individual 
posts.  Somehow my list configuration got hacked while I was in the middle of 
answering other posts (I do not check email every 30 seconds like some 
others).

The issue with the auto-response is that if we reply to the "Reply-To:" 
address, then the auto-response goes to the entire list, which is even worse. 
 So we send the auto-response to the "From:" address, which means to the 
person who posted to the list, which sent me that person's post.  It is 
really not that wrong, if you consider that if you send me an email (the list 
is forwarding it to me with your From: address) then I have a right to 
respond to you.  If I choose to respond with an auto-responder, that is my 
right.

However, of course I understood that would not be polite, so that is why I 
set my list configuration to daily batch, but like I said, somehow I got 
hacked.  I do not know how.  Perhaps I accidentally resubmitted my list 
signup confirmation url or some obscure bug in your list software.

Any way, the main issue is how can an auto-response interact with a list 
without having to manually whitelist each list?  My thought is the list 
should instead do this:

Reply-To: submittolist(_at_)list(_dot_)com
From: "Person Who Posted" <deleteme(_at_)list(_dot_)com>

That way an auto-responder can work correctly without having to maintain a 
manual list of all lists in universe.

Okay I realize that we can look for:

List-ID: <spf-discuss(_at_)v2(_dot_)listbox(_dot_)com>

And then use that to apply special logic.  That was already on our todo list 
(which is why I signed up with special configuration that got changed).

But my question to you experts is (and I will appreciate your help very 
much), where can I find an exhaustive list of all formats of list headers, so 
we can handle all lists?


It is a dedicated box, so he's not like me stuck using a shared server.  But
the service is managed.  He does not have root access:

http://www.pair.com/services/dedicated/faq.html#11b

We have root access on RackSpace:

http://www.DownloadFAST.com

http://www.CoolPageHelp.com

We are moving back to Pair.com (was Pair customers since 1996), because they 
simply offer a better service overall.

Also we have been offered root permissions (to at least My SQL), but we have 
refused it, because we prefer to pay Pair admins to be our sys admins, than 
contract our own as we did with RackSpace.  It simply delivers a more 
reliable service this way for now.  If we get to the point of needing load 
balancing, etc.., we can move back to RackSpace.


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