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RE: Re: List of nominations for people to sit on the "SPF Leadership Council"

2004-11-14 12:02:05
People want to be on the winning team!  So, they may vote for the person
that is currently winning.  So, I agree with Wayne.

I agree with Wayne:
"I think all votes should be kept secret until the end of the election.
First, I prevents tit-for-tat votes, and selective voting based on who is
unlikely to win and/or unlikely to lose.  Secondly, it will encourage people
to vote early since people can always keep their votes secret by snipping at
the end of the processes."

Guy

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Subject: Re: [spf-discuss] Re: List of nominations for people to sit on the
"SPF Leadership Council"


I like Greg's suggestion, so here it goes.

I say "NO" to Williams outline, but would say "YES" with the following
changes/clarifications.

In 
<Pine(_dot_)LNX(_dot_)4(_dot_)44(_dot_)0411140554220(_dot_)30141-100000(_at_)sokol(_dot_)elan(_dot_)net>
"william(at)elan.net" <william(_at_)elan(_dot_)net> writes:

1. Everyone who has participated in spf-discuss and posted at least once
   prior to original call for nominations can vote
2. Voting takes place on the web with special form where people are asked
   to choose 5 of XX candidates and then email is sent to confirm their 
   vote (listing their choices) which they need to reply to if vote was
   correct or go to webpage again if it was not. 
                                                 If somebody by chance
   ended up replying twice (or voting twice), the 1st vote is the one
   that counts.

Isn't this backwards?  Shouldn't your last vote count?


                All replies immediatly go to special publicly open 
   archive page.

I think all votes should be kept secret until the end of the election.
First, I prevents tit-for-tat votes, and selective voting based on who
is unlikely to win and/or unlikely to lose.  Secondly, it will
encourage people to vote early since people can always keep their
votes secret by snipping at the end of the processes.


                 At the end person running the elections confirms if each 
   reply vote came from person who previously posted on spf-discuss (or
   machine could do it and limit those who could reply to list to be
compiled
   by Wayne) and if it had 5 candidates of choice (although prefered is 
   that javascript on the webpage makes sure of that), if problems are
   found, he/she then posts  list of those votes that would not be 
   accepted and why.
3. The 5 people with largest number of votes are asked to form a council
4. The elections should be run by neutral party and so person doing it
   should not be in the running for the council himself/herself
5. Elections take place over the period of 7 days with at least one 
   reminder sent 24 hour before election closes
6. Initial council has no defined term but must come up with new election
   procedures and define its function and term (it SHOULD then call for 
   new elections once this has all been approved or it MAY specifically 
   make the poll and ask people to confirm that existing council can 
   serve reminder of the term) 
7. Anybody can choose to resign from the council in that case the person 
   with next highiest number of votes of those not elected takes his
place.

I have some quibbles with the rest of the but I can easily live with
them.  I can also live with other minor changes.


-wayne

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